Nats Lunchbox: Trade for a starting pitcher?
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Sun, 22 Jul 2012|
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CSN Washington dot com. They're nets fans look at the national's lunch box presented by SB nation I'm chase Hughes with Patrick Remington and Dave Nichols. Talking the trade deadline coming up I think we've we've talked about this before Stephen Strasburg innings limit. And today were discussing whether that may have an effect on -- whether they wanna maybe go out and get pitcher and there are some big names out there Zack Greinke Cole Hamels I think is very outside shot. At the nationals Frentzen and Jason Vargas is another name that's kind of second -- out there. Given Strasburg its suppose an innings limit. He's going to be shut down pride maybe the first week of September to mean to go out and get maybe another arm for the post season race. There's been talk of Ryan Dempster too that's another name came up the last day and I think it's really got to come down to you whether they can get a pitcher to commit long term here and they've. Said repeatedly they don't want not necessarily interest in the rental and some -- gonna give up significant prospect or and then losing two months of free agencies that. They can find someone that wants to stay here long term and find a pitcher that can actually help them. Once they do is to upset Strasburg got an -- might make sense and they've expressed interest and that Frankie before I went out. Kansas City illustrating a few years ago there was reportedly willing to go about five years nine million dollars to send them keep their long terms if he's available and get them. Or better price anywhere in terms of prospects left and I think I think you might see them actually go after him. Michael is a set of a couple of different occasions now that the nets are gonna straight from the plan and any moves to make is going to be the long term enough for the short term. I don't see him. -- a whole bunch of prospects to go get a free agent pitcher. On the won't be any compensation if that pitcher leaves I'm of the opinion if they give him a break here dumpster tonight. There's pitchers are gonna test the market next year anyway. Regardless of whether and that's make them a fair offer not it was -- with Greinke he'll be top pitcher on the market next year. I think he's gonna look for Max contract six years seven years of prison 120 million dollars that's something that's participating in that. I think the nationals are deep enough right now that they can withstand. Shutting Strasburg down supplying from within for the three or four starts and get to two regular season. And then if you've got a top rotation. -- Gonzales Jordan Zimmermann Edwin Jackson and lost that while others before I think that's a strong as any other National League team can put on during the playoffs. If they've had the Strasburg plan in mind for over a year now they can talk about since last August September you have to assume that they kind of came into the season knowing what they're gonna do. And assuming that he would be strike that shut down and that could be why John -- on in the organization why you're still -- with ten Jamont when he has had much success. They want to make sure they have that depth to not only get through the season but if they're going into the post season have the pitching they can actually compete. That day do you think Zack Greinke I guess that's the kind of popular name were thrown around here. That very -- as we know he's had some some problems in the past with anxiety and stuff this is a bigger market. Is he that is he a guy we think will would be perfect to lead the rotation down the room well. I don't think so. Beckon in 2002 and win -- -- first made overtures and and thank you got traded from Kansas City to Milwaukee where he is now. You know Ricky reportedly turned on the tree come here now the next situations like different and it wasn't 2010. But I really think as I mentioned earlier that Greg he's gonna look for this Max contract. I don't think it's good that I don't think the nationals. With the trade to me for you Gonzales and depleted their top. You know their top. Prospects in the upper league's upper Echelon so the have to to dive deeper down the singling guys guys who were drafted in this year's draft and players to be named later. I just something the nets have the human resources in the minor leagues right now. To make another mega deal for this and people say. You know -- compensation issues you know Milwaukee can't expect much in return for Greinke is it might otherwise in past years. I still think that's -- I still think to Milwaukee's gonna ask for. For at least any prospect of not you know if maybe not a name that to be level prospects. If he could be had for two sea level prospects the -- kick the tires -- but I just I don't see that happening having Milwaukee's got one more. Only reason I'm even thinking evidence consideration I generally don't think they're gonna go over pitcher but. They should express interest in Greinke before and they were willing to give that much money which is the only reason I'm kind of thinking I might still be a possibility but like they said they. Traded away all other top pitching prospect to get you 101000 here. They're gonna have to put out for some prospects and probably don't wanna see -- organization they're gonna make a deal for ranking this year CSN Washington dot com.
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Patted him it just doesn't quite look like what you expected the biggest thing is fastball command. You know he's not. Throwing strikes getting ahead in the count. The way it did it was so amazing about him as a rookie when he came back originally from the Tommy John surgery was the fact that. He could be a power pitcher while still having excellent coming that deadly combination. Just not quite there yet. Curve balls still excellent still excellent. I think you're seeing signs of improvement I think he's getting there but he still working on to think that it's mechanical mostly. And they they seem to determine and it's not physical it's mormons and you can see it on the on the field he's the body language that. He's impatient he gets frustrates easily and this just a matter of him being such a perfectionist. He's not used to not being great. He's used to being great not just good right exactly and I think that's that next step and take if he's really gonna become an ace of the World Series contender. It's about hey it doesn't matter what happens behind him Doesn't matter what run support I the umpire and I'm gonna go out I'm gonna beat no matter We're seeing there and do that right now I think it's time for Strasburg if he really wants to become an elite. Top. The line pitcher. That's what he needs you now quickly another guy who's had trouble as you can also I think might be a little bit more of a concern is his command has been quite there. I think it's curve ball isn't quite as sharp as it was last year this is something that might he might work out the kinks out. But he has been pride stuff yeah I mean an more erratic certainly had some fantastic start and that's really troubling ones I think his last start Pittsburgh may have been a turning point for them. Got a huge jam in the first inning lead off home runs very first pitch then he loads the bases. Nobody out. Battle back and get out six straight after that I can almost see a little something clicked inside and minutes that. Maybe this you Ozzie admitted afterwards and younger version him would have melted there. Let it spiral out control. That might be assigned an comes back next time that made it a big turning point mark let's talk about the catching situation we're moving through May and so far Davey has. Rotated kind of alternated and depending on the edge depending on the he said that at some he's gonna have to make a decision we saw over the weekend go back to back with Ramos. At some point. Maybe you and you think we're gonna see him go with the primary catcher I think so maybe not a true number one in the and a guy you know catching you know once or twice a week and I think he does. Number one wanna play the hot hand whoever it is. I think he hopes its problems he understands that everyone understands. That Wilson Ramos has higher ceilings and Kurt Suzuki put the whole package together offensively defensively he can do more so I think you're gonna start to see that. It Suzuki gets hot they'll play obviously. I think the preference be for to ultimately take over. I went into the numbers last week how the pitching staff has done with Suzuki and For some reason everybody but you done way better with over the past few seasons in their career ERA is. Are better with him in their career marks I don't I don't know I can't tell you why that is but that's the case yeah and I the pictures all insist they'll have both guys I don't know if there even where it. Yzerman tops they had success with Suzuki and it's amazing stats that would certainly something overtime that you have to look him. Now as we're getting close to the middle of may what we take stock with the division first the Braves came out really hot out of the gate. It was it was really at the point were you thinking all right who's gonna slow him down or what's gonna slow them down they didn't seem to have a weakness whatsoever. The nationals. Meanwhile your 500. But as they're starting to get things going they're not that far behind it could be much worse at this point oh absolutely mean if the nationals. Figure that April was their worst month but that's as bad against them they're going to be all right because they hover around 500. And the rays came back to earth and what's it was gonna happen next maybe not. To this extent you're surprised by that we're gonna play 900 ball. All right I think it was twelve and when you start here to me what's interesting is all of a sudden they're closer Craig Kimbrel. Most dominant closer in baseball last year and the first month this year he's blown three saves in days yeah giving up home runs. That's. Staggered problem right there I mean who knows just a blip. Or something long term about but also without Johnny Panthers won their top. Setup men and PG beaches and come back and just came back Heyward been out for a while there. BJ Upton knocked off to a good start the play and they got a lot of weapons are they're going to be good. Long term but they may not be quite easily as we and BJ Upton has been really bad and having having gas was really early on but. he's not looking like the next Mike Capps at this point about one thing I think it's interesting as the two best guys I think in their offense have to look at the numbers today. 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